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 Downlaodable Mint4Win exe

Created 4 years ago, edited 3 years ago.
Status changed 2 years ago
Author:

holyguyver
Status:
Selected
  Score:
 202
281 votes
Idea:

The Mint4Win exe file should be put on the website as a download option like the WUBI site http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer or Debian installer site http://www.goodbye-windows.com/debian/vista/ where someone on Windows can simply download the exe file & then it downloads the ISO & the person can install Mint without ever burning a CD.

Comments:

1 year ago

dominicf85
There is no mint4win installer for xfce and kde distros. Its so difficult to install without a windows installer.  
1 year ago

saintdanbert
While I agree in principal, and I know that this approach is found for many win-dose applications, the elapsed time to install a full distribution might put off some end-users -- especially those who are new to anything beyond what was in the box they brought home.

I would like to see the install happen in more than one pass. First, parts that are absolutely required to get a system that will boot and run on the target hardware. Any desktop or graphical environment might be minimal and generic. The network should be fully operational for both wire and wireless connections.

On re-boot, the first environment might feel the hardware and select components that contribute to a more optimal workstation environment.

On the next re-boot, ask the end-user to indicate application areas of interest and install those packages. An end-user does not need or understand more than one application to meet a specific need. Any mint4win install might be better if it delivered one and then told the end-user about other optional package.

I base this approach on my interactions with box-delivered win-dose users.
Any savvy enough for a full install can install from ISO or DVD or Flash-drive.
 
2 years ago

travelinrob
Anyone get this to work with Mint 13?  
2 years ago

viking777
I am not a mint4win user myself, but I think given the amount of positive votes this idea has got (plus the fact it is easily implemented) it is time it got moved from new to considered. (it isn't me that does the consideration btw it is the mint dev team, and no timeline for consideration is implied by this move).  
2 years ago

haryanto
good  
2 years ago

mrlithium
I have created a Mint4Win.exe for Linux Mint 12 (not 11) for those who downloaded the DVD version then realized it wasnt included (there is no technical limitation preventing the DVD from including it, so I recompiled it from source with the 900MB arbitrary limitation removed) - I have it hosted at: http://www.mediafire.com/?6fvdrdh8gozutis

Please note that the "Automatic Download" function of the program does not work, as it references http://fakelink.com/fake.metalink. You must manually download the ISO from one of the mirrors : http://www.linuxmint.com/release.php?id=17

I have tested that it works on Linux Mint 12 RC DVD & CD Edition (only version 12, not 11, and yes, the DVD version works that is why I made it.) I assume it will remain functional for the final version of version 12 DVD/CD.
EASIEST OPTION = Option 1:
1) Put linuxmint-12-gnome-dvd-64bit-rc.iso in the Root Directory (mandatory) of any drive (ie C:\ D:\ E:\ F:\ G:\ -> Z:\ )
2) Double Click the mint4win-12.exe executable.
More technical - Option 2: (also unncessary = just use Option 1 )
1) Mount linuxmint-12-gnome-dvd-64bit-rc.iso with any ISO mount program (i've been using TotalMounter but anything like Daemon Tools or Alcohol can work)
2) The ISO file you mount must NOT be located in the root C:\ D:\ etc (or it will get confused on which to use) =
3) Double Click the mint4win-12.exe executable.
Option 3:
1) Use a PHYSICAL DISC you already burned - (no point to burn one if you haven't already since the mint4win installer will copy the entire installation disk to your HDD first anyway) The installer will detect the .iso file if you burned the disc incorrectly (as in dragging and dropping the ISO as a file, instead of burning the ISO)
2) Double Click the mint4win-12.exe executable.

This mint4win-12.exe can be freely redistributed and was compiled from the mint4win sourceforge code as of 11/23/2011.
 
3 years ago

open_geek
very great idea  
3 years ago

psyckers
The Mint4Win.exe file could also act like a live CD for the people to try Linux Mint before installing it. Great idea Holyguyver.  
3 years ago

blueXrider
How about a "try-before-you-buy" web site. Users can interact with all the features and see what it can do before downloading. At this point they can download a Java-script which will choose Distro and partitioning options then download and install it.

Ok guess we could vote for Mint4Win

 
3 years ago

rick1959
Feel this is an idea of great promise in encouraging new users to get involved. Too often I hear that folks shun trying Linux because it seems too difficult or may not work properly. Linux, Linux Mint especially(!), seems to work remarkably well with all the hardware I've run across. Now, making it easier to try is simply brilliant!!  
3 years ago

blueXrider
Brilliant Idea, PERFECT Lets run with it  
3 years ago

igi2000
good idea , for new users of linux  
3 years ago

hooman
good idea  
3 years ago

finickydesert
i think we could take it a step further, we could offer this. if the user wants to install it or partition it, then we should offer the ability to keep all settings and data and transfer it to the new installation.  
3 years ago

burjans
That is a good idea, I would like to have for LMDE  
3 years ago

oldlinuxjoe
Whilst I think it is a good idea, I think that educating people about the different ways of actually installing Linux Mint on a separate partition to Windows is really the way to go.

The problem with Wubi and other like minded installers are that when people actually decide that they want to install Linux mint, they have to lose all or most of their settings and then they have to start all over again.

Installing Linux Mint on a hard drive is the way to go because if they then decide that they don't want to use it, it's simply a matter of deleting the partition and then reverting it back to a Windows formatted hard drive. If they decide they want to keep on using Linux Mint then it's already installed properly.
 
3 years ago

holyguyver
When I originally suggest this idea it was two, approaching 3, releases ago. At that time Mint4Win had temporarily stopped working in LinuxMint, & my original wording reflected that. Now to prevent confusion about what I meant I have updated the wording as my idea request is still valid.  
3 years ago

punkrtekk
Even if net-install is not really a common option, why not to have it:-) Actually it would be a good news for netbook users...  
4 years ago

itbcn8
Any ETA for Mint4Win?  
4 years ago

mockturtl
Fact: a mainstream distro needs wubi. It's just good advertising.

see also, "partitioning is scary:" http://community.linuxmint.com/idea/view/56
 
4 years ago

LadyQuindecim
The downside is that this would generate a lot of site traffic (as mentioned. If this would use a torrent, or an optional local resource (local file server, CD/DVD, et al) then it would be better.  
4 years ago

Xyie
This would be a unique idea that would allow Windows users to try out Mint while feeling comfortable doing so. I can see where it might be quite a bit of work to download it, however, if it was an .exe file that was prettymuch a downloader/installer for the .iso file...

Maybe an .exe file that doesn't download the file, but uses an already (separately?) downloaded .iso file to install it that way? That'd mean it probably could be done for each version without having to make a new downloader. And a likely bonus: something that could be done to install any other Linux OS.
 
4 years ago

tanmays
It would be a huge download... preferably on slow connections. Downloading ISO by the exe does not seems a better option.  
4 years ago

kramnani
Needed because it wont scare people by having to download a ISO if they are new. And second it would be faster if people only wanted to get it for Mint4Win. Also it will let them set as just the backup boot up option with
with window boot loader...without having to learn grub for dual boot.
 
4 years ago

pegassus55
It is definitely an excelent idea; I have tried some Linux distribuitions before, but Linux Mint is something else. I see in the comments that using it as a program in Windows it is slow; I don think so. I have a Compaq Presario with an AMD Athlon II, 2 GB of RAM and it really fly like a rocket and it is installed as a program in Win 7. A lot of people that is scared to format and partition a disk (like me), will see that and very probably will change it's OS like I am doing. I'm from México and I don't write in English very well, my apologies for my bad writing and a salute to all.  
4 years ago

13thSlayer
Bad idea. More confusing options for new users means more mess.  
4 years ago

Apple
Needed because it wont scare people by having to download a ISO if they are new. And second it would be faster if people only wanted to get it for Mint4Win  
4 years ago

Celtore
This is definitely what we need to promote mint, but so long as users are alerted that actually installing the ISO and duelbooting is the better solution.

Mint4win should act as more of an introduction in my honest opinion, but this further extends the need to have it downloadable on its own.
 
4 years ago

scorici
This is a must for promoting the Linux Mint distributions !!!  
4 years ago

Mef51
I did the mint4win and though it might be significantly slower... It's still pretty damn fast =P

Besides, mounting the ISO was a breeze, and knowing how to mount is just a useful thing to know overall. The distributed ISO is a good introduction to all that stuff.
 
4 years ago

kanha
because storing on a cd/dvd can cause a waste in future if one wants to install a fresh copy of new version without usin the old one so its a nice idea
 
4 years ago

Joeasaurus
Definitely a good idea! Downloading the whole ISO just to retrieve this little .exe seems silly!

To all those Mint4Win haters -> The point of installing it within Windows isn't to be a substitute for a proper frugal install. The idea is to give newbies the opportunity to try Mint without the worries of partitioning and bootloaders. They install it like a program, try it out, learn, get braver, remove it like a program, install Linux properly onto a partition, ???, Profit.
 
4 years ago

SxFlare
I'm not against mint4win, but there are tons of better options than doing this. Especially since Linux Mint runs significantly slowly on the Windows partition and there are emulators for CDs so no burning is required and is practically a no-brainer to use, even to non-computer-literate people because I've introduced Daemon-Tools to many newbie computer users and they all used it without any questions after "what is that".  
4 years ago

baffle-boy
i'm demoting this idea because i greatly dislike mint4win. as a concept it's a nice thing, install directly in windoze and all that. but mint4win actually makes linux mint run MUCH slower than normal because it is in a NTFS partition. that's why mint4 win isn't worht the trouble in my opinion.  
4 years ago

teh-l33t-0N3
whoa iv never herd of this but it sounds like a very easy way to get operating systems can somone email the link when its found?  
4 years ago

Karolina
Where and how I can download mint4win?  
4 years ago

Obsi
I agree with this. This is really needed as a step toward Windows users that aren't really comfortable with computers.
A solution to install Mint from Windows without burning the CD would really come in handy, maybe even for people who are used to Linux.
 
4 years ago

linuxmint
I agree with this idea. This is essential to all windows users wanting to try out linux. :)  
4 years ago

holyguyver
Deathgasm, once again that is too much for most Windows users. Debian & Ubuntu both have downloadable versions of Debian Installer/Wubi/Mint4Win as exe files. Mint should have it to.  
4 years ago

jkw
1. Download prefered .iso-release.
2. Download Daemon Tools Lite from http://www.daemon-tools.cc/eng/downloads/dtLite
3. Mount the iso in Daemon Tools Lite.

No need to "waste" a CD.
On the other hand I would actually recommend burning it to a cd, reboot the computer to actually try it before installing it.
 
4 years ago

JAHGoVeg
i agree with pierre
"Mint4Win should stay on the CD, so that it can be AutoRun by M$windows. separating them wouldn,t be so good."

i like that so that if sometime in the future the user wanted to install linux mint to the hard disk they still have the CD!!

but see i also agree with inchkape

"I always hit the same stumbling blocks:
1. burning an .iso to CD - this is alien to windows users
2. partioning a hard disk - this still scares me on my own machine - imagine what it does to windows users!
3. Once Mint is installed with a working internet connection (fingers crossed) helping the friend set up their box

If they could download a Mint4Win.exe, it would eliminate the first stumbling block. Windows users are used to downloading and installing an exe. Once on their machine Mint will let them introduce themselves to the way we do things in Linux. Perhaps if remote desktop became easier to use (it never worked for me!) we could ask a willing windows user to install a Mint4Win.exe which would also set up a remote dektop sstem so we could help them in a more hands on way. I vote to have a downloadable Mint4Win.exe"

Very hard decision
 
4 years ago

saiftheboss7
ITS TOO MUCH NECESSARY! TOO MUCH!
MUST NEED!
 
4 years ago

CarlicusLinux
I too miss the wubi capabilities...would like to see it added as an update package or in the next release.  
4 years ago

confuse
Agree, if it can be (reasonably easy) in both places (CD and Downloadable exe) then it must be. Like many others here said, it's another plus.  
4 years ago

LeFlemJr
Anything to make installation and transition of linux easier is nothing but a plus. Perhaps more windows users would be willing to delve into the world of linux.  
4 years ago

holyguyver
It does use WUBI, but only on the burned ISO, this proposed idea is for a downloadable exe version.  
4 years ago

setinstone31
I though LM used Wubi already?  
4 years ago

inchkape
Several times now, I've give remote help to friends to install Mint on a XP/Vista/very soon Win 7 box.

I always hit the same stumbling blocks:
1. burning an .iso to CD - this is alien to windows users
2. partioning a hard disk - this still scares me on my own machine - imagine what it does to windows users!
3. Once Mint is installed with a working internet connection (fingers crossed) helping the friend set up their box

If they could download a Mint4Win.exe, it would eliminate the first stumbling block. Windows users are used to downloading and installing an exe. Once on their machine Mint will let them introduce themselves to the way we do things in Linux. Perhaps if remote desktop became easier to use (it never worked for me!) we could ask a willing windows user to install a Mint4Win.exe which would also set up a remote dektop sstem so we could help them in a more hands on way. I vote to have a downloadable Mint4Win.exe
 
4 years ago

Fugy
Mint4Win is a must have for beginners and is needed!  
4 years ago

Zaradur
Agree. Have to stay on cd and have to get a good place on the website.  
4 years ago

morfus
and Unetbootin just works when you Computer or Netbook can boot a USB-Device. So WUBI (or Mint4win) is very important.  
4 years ago

premamotion
Yes! This is very important I think!!!  
4 years ago

Pierre
Mint4Win should stay on the CD, so that it can be AutoRun by M$windows. separating them wouldn,t be so good.  
4 years ago

Hammeh
Mint4Win is definitely needed to get new users used to using the operating system inside one in which they are familiar.  
4 years ago

Baerius
In my opinion Mint4win is necessary for a new user, because is simple to install and uninstall(for example I've tried gloria with mint4win, and now i had a normal installation for helena)..
with normal uninstall one has to delete GRUB..

 
4 years ago

vrkalak
When I first came over to Linux it was with Wubi and Ubuntu. If we can promote Wibi/Mint to Windows users ... simplicity and ease of use, are a plus.  
4 years ago

holyguyver
Then you should put up a download link to that on the Linux Mint site.  
4 years ago

clem
Unetbootin does that: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/  

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